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Dear Sir,

I encountered some "Transparent square" of playback the smart cutter output file when using DxVA mode.
But there is no same problem if I playback the original file.
If I deactivate the DxVA mode. The problem will not happen.
Seem this problem occur using DxVA mode only.
Would you please help to investigate this problem?

The original file is uploaded to ftp server
File: /iHD/Sample_iHD_20101023.ts

Cutting point: 1:49:11:389 - 1:53:20:989
Player: MPC-HC v1.4.2667
Codec: CyberLink H.264/AVC Decoder (PDVD8)

Below cases were tested but got same results.
1. enable "Stream Fix"
2. enable "TME Mode"
3. tried version 1.24, 1.27, 1.29, 1.30


Regards,
iHD

Dear iHD:
Thanks for your posting and the sample file.

We had it cut according to the cut points as you mentioned.
http://www.fame-ring.com/samples/iHD/iHD.cut.ts
We tried the cut video on several test computers and different systems(Xp, Vista, Win7), but we did not re-produce the problem. It was always playbacked correctly, with no 'transparent square'.

Player: MPC-HC v1.3.1249.0
Codec: CyberLink H.264/AVC Decoder (PDVD7)
We do not have PDVD8 codec installed. So we took PDVD7 instead. Maybe this is the case?

Any way, our developers managed to make some modifications that may be related to DXVA, you may please try this newly cut video on your MPC-HC + PDVD8
http://www.fame-ring.com/samples/iHD/iHD.cut.new.ts
and tell us the result.

Looking forward to your further message.
Thank you very much.

Best Regards,
FameRing Support Team

Hi FrameRing Support Team,

Thanks for your quick reply.
I tired the file that you provided.
Unfortunately, the problem still occur.
I captured the screen for your reference and uploaded to ftp.

According to your information. I confirmed that there is no problem using PDVD7 codec
I provide more information to help you to re-produce the problem.

Display Card: ATI HD5570 with ATI Driver 10.10
OS: Windows XP
MPC-HC setting which uploaded to ftp server

Regards,
iHD

Dear iHD:
Thanks for your information.

We spent some time trying to find PDVD8. But the most recent version is PDVD10. So we have PDVD10 installed then tested it with the iHD.cut.new.ts,


The result is still okay. Screenshot below


Display Card: ATI HD
OS: Vista
MPC-HC setting below


Could you please try the PDVD10 on your end? It is the most updated version now.
Since you have confirmed that there is no problem using PDVD7 codec, perhaps the problem only happens on PDVD8.

Looking forward to your further message.
Thank you very much.

Best Regards,
FameRing Support Team

But there is no problem on the original file.
So I think there is a different of the smart cutter output.
I tired PDVD8 and 9, the problem still exist.

I got PDVD10 finally.
I tested "iHD.cut.new.ts" and got same results as PDVD8,PDVD9
I has been uploaded my screen capture to ftp. Please take a look.

Here is my codec version.
PDVD10: CLCvd.ax 1.0.0.1930
PDVD9: CL264dec.ax 2.2.0.527
PDVD8: CL264dec.ax 2.2.0.916
PDVD7.x: CL264dec.ax 2.2.0.501

I compared the files and found some different. Hope this can help you.

Sample_iHD_20101023.ts
Video
ID : 821 (0x335)
Menu ID : 82 (0x52)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=12
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 5mn 47s
Bit rate : 3 530 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : PAL
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : MBAFF
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.341
Stream size : 146 MiB (86%)
Color primaries : BT.470-6 System B, BT.470-6 System G, BT.601-6 625, BT.1358 625, BT.1700 625 PAL, BT.1700 625 SECAM
Transfer characteristics : BT.470-6 System B, BT.470-6 System G
Matrix coefficients : BT.470-6 System B, BT.470-6 System G, BT.601-6 625, BT.1358 625, BT.1700 625 PAL, BT.1700 625 SECAM, IEC 61966-2-4 601

iHD.cut.ts
Video
ID : 821 (0x335)
Menu ID : 82 (0x52)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 4mn 9s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 3 531 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 15.0 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : PAL
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : MBAFF
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.341
Stream size : 105 MiB (85%)
Color primaries : BT.470-6 System B, BT.470-6 System G, BT.601-6 625, BT.1358 625, BT.1700 625 PAL, BT.1700 625 SECAM
Transfer characteristics : BT.470-6 System B, BT.470-6 System G
Matrix coefficients : BT.470-6 System B, BT.470-6 System G, BT.601-6 625, BT.1358 625, BT.1700 625 PAL, BT.1700 625 SECAM, IEC 61966-2-4 601


iHD.cut.new.ts
Video
ID : 821 (0x335)
Menu ID : 82 (0x52)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 4mn 9s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 3 531 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 15.0 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : PAL
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : MBAFF
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.341
Stream size : 105 MiB (84%)
Color primaries : BT.470-6 System B, BT.470-6 System G, BT.601-6 625, BT.1358 625, BT.1700 625 PAL, BT.1700 625 SECAM
Transfer characteristics : BT.470-6 System B, BT.470-6 System G
Matrix coefficients : BT.470-6 System B, BT.470-6 System G, BT.601-6 625, BT.1358 625, BT.1700 625 PAL, BT.1700 625 SECAM, IEC 61966-2-4 601

Hi FrameRing Support Team,

Could you re-produce the problem?


Regards,
iHD

Dear iHD:

iHD wrote: Could you re-produce the problem?

We did not re-produce it on our test machines yet. We tried many times, with various combinations of sofware + hardware configurations, we did not see it yet.

Next, our developers will try to change the inner parameters of the Smart Cutter, generating different video outputs. We may need you to test these outputs on your end.
Since there are many parameters, the developers will choose the most related ones. This may take time.
We will keep you posted about the progress.

Please feel free to send us your further advice and suggestion.
Thank you very much.

Best Regards,
FameRing Support Team

admin wrote:Dear iHD:

iHD wrote: Could you re-produce the problem?

We did not re-produce it on our test machines yet. We tried many times, with various combinations of sofware + hardware configurations, we did not see it yet.

Next, our developers will try to change the inner parameters of the Smart Cutter, generating different video outputs. We may need you to test these outputs on your end.
Since there are many parameters, the developers will choose the most related ones. This may take time.
We will keep you posted about the progress.

Please feel free to send us your further advice and suggestion.
Thank you very much.

Best Regards,
FameRing Support Team

Thanks.
Would you help to check the output missed this parameter "Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=12" ?